KDE-CVS-Digest for November 7, 2003

In this week's CVS-Digest:
Bug fixes and more bug fixes. Umbrello, KDevelop, Quanta, Konsole, KOrganizer encoding, KSpread,
KHTML, JuK, Kopete, KGPG, KWin and kdeui all have a large number of bugs fixed.

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by Loket (not verified)

Thanks, Derek!

by Mohasr (not verified)

will filelight be in kde 3.2 final release? it looks promesing

by Anonymous (not verified)

No, but fsview (showing rectangles).

by Max Howell (not verified)

Nope, it wasn't complete enough to submit in time, although now it is fairly complete and stable :)

Anyway I am concerned about the clash of roles between Filelight and FSView. Especially as I am planning to make Filelight a KPart so it can integrate into Konqi just like FSView. But I also plan to separate the input gatherer from the ouput renderer and allow any kind of heirarchical data to be represented by the RadialMapPart and then try to get it working with KSpread as a chart type, maybe working with KCacheGrind, and anything else I can think of as this will make it more worthy of bundling with the next KDE release.

Also I was thinking of having a start up screen that summarised your mounts just like KDiskFree. If I use KDiskFree's code maybe Filelight would count as KDiskFree version +1 and it could replace it? Worth some consideration perhaps.

by Enrico R (not verified)

Well, a KRadialMapWidget will be cool, and a filelight kpart will rock for sure. I think it should replace the fsview 'cause filelight is so clean and it has it's smart radial display that helps you find wasted space.

Maybe it should replace fsviewpart after the freeze, many friends told me about it.

About the clash.. I think that summarizing disk usage and mount points with a nice graphical interface and letting the user 'go deep' with filelight is all we need in place of KDiskFree and other silly disk usage tools ^_^

Great Work, MaxH. ! ;-P

by Friedrich (not verified)

Perhaps you can join the two views, offering a switch via a dropdown-button (see IconView)...

by Tron (not verified)

I am running KDE 3.1.4 on Fedora and I don't see it.

Anyway, from what I read and saw of FileLight, it seems very cool, but KDirStat seems to offer more information, even if it doesen't look as cool.

http://kdirstat.sourceforge.net/kdirstat/

by Anonymous (not verified)

fsview will be new in kdeaddons 3.2.

by Gtavo (not verified)

I want disable fsview from konqueror and kdirstat... any idea?

by Datschge (not verified)

Obvious answer: Just don't install it or remove it from the KDE lib folder again.

by Debian User (not verified)

Hi,

for many things Filelight will be better suited. I have testes FSView and found it not so productive for file management. I would guess that the circle you draw is better to overview.

So go ahead. You ought to try and share code with FSView where possible, so the circle is just one presentation. Ideally I would hope for read-write access. I should be able to delete into the view if possible. Dreams?

Yours, Kay

by Josef Weidendorfer (not verified)

First of all, I like the radial drawing in Filelight.
It won't clash with FSView; I think they can complement each other.

The most fundamental difference between the radial pie drawing in
filelight and a TreeMap (as used in FSView) is that the first
still splits children in the 1-dimensional space (circle border),
but TreeMaps use 2-dimensional splitting (rectangles).
Thus, the resolution capability of a TreeMap is 1 order of
magnitude higher.

It would be nice to have the radial drawing as a widget with a
class interface similar to QListView (I've done this with the
TreeMapWidget class). This simplifies its adoption as replacement
for hierarchical representations (even perhaps in KCachegrind).

Some questions for the drawing part, as I didn't haved tried it yet:
- does it use tooltips for additional info?
- does it allow multiple labels per item (as columns in QListView, or
the labels in the TreeMapWidget)?
- Drag & Drop? That's missing in my widget.

Josef

by Max Howell (not verified)

Hi Josef,

> First of all, I like the radial drawing in Filelight.
> It won't clash with FSView; I think they can complement each other.

Good stuff, I spose once I've KParted it, it can be listed below FSView in Konqi then. Choice is good :)

> It would be nice to have the radial drawing as a widget with a
> class interface similar to QListView (I've done this with the
> TreeMapWidget class). This simplifies its adoption as replacement
> for hierarchical representations (even perhaps in KCachegrind).

Yeah this makes sense, I'll look into FSView's code and try to mirror its interface. For some reason it had slipped my mind to make the radialMap available to KDE as a widget, I kept thinking it would only be useful as a KPart. Silly me :)

> Some questions for the drawing part, as I didn't haved tried it yet:
> - does it use tooltips for additional info?

Yep, indeed it does, just like FSView.

> - does it allow multiple labels per item (as columns in QListView, or
> the labels in the TreeMapWidget)?

Currently no, but in order to make the Widget more generally useful I'll be implementing this shortly I should think. I'll refer to your class as a reference.

> - Drag & Drop? That's missing in my widget.

I hadn't really thought about D'n'D as yet. What sort of objects should the widget accept?

by Datschge (not verified)

The current 'Kexi's Environment' link can't be viewed since it asks for username and password. The visitor link is http://www.kexi-project.org/wiki/wikiview/index.php?Kexi%27s%20Environment

by Derek Kite (not verified)

It's fixed now.

Derek

by Addicted to Derek! (not verified)

Thank you for bringing us fresh news on kde development!
I asked for a cvs account because i read kde-cvs-digest and now that i have it, i'm waiting for the feature un-freeze..
Hurray for Derek Kite !! ^_^

by Anonymous (not verified)

> I asked for a cvs account because i read kde-cvs-digest and now that i have it

I doubt that you got it because of this rationale.

> i'm waiting for the feature un-freeze

So you're one more who doesn't care about fixing bugs?

by Derek Kite (not verified)

My goodness. You've managed to cover at least 4 of the rules in "How to ruin a community project". Question qualifications. Question motives. Suggest that you are really no help. Question what they are doing.

The appropriate response when someone offers to give some of their time and expertise is to say Thank-You.

Or is it just a bad hangover?

Derek

by Aaron J. Seigo (not verified)

i ++agree.

instead of negatively replying "so you're one more who doesn't care" perhaps he could've said something like, "cool, can't wait to see what you get up to; hopefully you'll get after some outstanding bugs while you're at it. i know i'd appreciate that."

most negatives can be phrased as positives; when i manage to do that (which isn't always =) it seems to feel much better when it leaves me, and i know that it feels much better when it arrives. and not just for me =)

by Aaron J. Seigo (not verified)

i think what he meant was this: Derek's CVS digests got him interested in working on KDE, and that in turn led to him work towards getting a CVS account. in other words, KDE has garnered one more active developer due to the CVS Digests. sounds like a nice win to me, and a good nice bit of encouragement for Derek.

as for being "one more who doesn't care about fixing bugs": chill out... there are lots of people already fixing bugs, and it seems that after getting into KDE development most people start fixing bugs whether that was their original intention or not.

of course, there are a number of use cases that KDE does not cover at this point; we need more features just as we need fewer bugs.

by Debian User (not verified)

Cool, can't wait to see what you get up to; hopefully you'll get after some outstanding issues while you're at it. i know i'd appreciate that. :-)

What Derek does to KDE cannot be underestimated. A lot people see things and start to believe the truth: They can actually help. :-)

BTW: Feature Freeze is not true for kde-nonbeta and there you can already go ahead and make things more ready.

Yours, Kay